I'm going to have heart disease because my teeth are bad.
I need to CHECK THE TEETH. This is just a big joke, right?
From: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US (spamme@lots) Subject: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-14 11:14:10 PST I'm going to have heart disease because my teeth are bad. I need to CHECK THE TEETH. This is just a big joke, right? From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS (markh@peoplepc.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-14 11:44:08 PST Well, not exactly. There have been many studies recently linking periodontal disease with cardiovascular and cerebrovascular disease. Exactly what the nature of the link is has not been determined. There are too many potential confounding factors such as smoking and other behaviors to make the relation clear cut. I'm uncomfortable with scaring patients to floss less their hearts explode. Still, until the link is clarified, you can't dismiss it. BTW, the relationship between periodontal disease in mothers and low birth rate babies has been more clearly determined. Steve Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 http://www.dentaltwins.com/ From: Joel_Eichen (joel_eichen@excite.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-14 13:48:06 PST REPLY: Yes, this is a big joke and it is wrong. From: JDrew63929 (jdrew63929@aol.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-14 18:08:08 PST Well since you brought it up, I just heard on the news that someone had a heart attack and it was determined it was from the teeth. However it is far from a joke. There are many people suffering from conditions that are indeed caused by the teeth. And many who are regaining their health AFTER the metal is removed from the mouth. My life and my regained health is not a joke. - Jan From: Gabriel Schugurensky (gaboschu@sinectis.com.ar) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-16 20:10:06 PST Yes! someone CAN have a heart attack from the teeth, you are Right about that but... It is NOT from the mercury, it is from the whole bunch of bacterias that they have in their gums that are inflammated so they are bleeding and then bacterihemia occurs (bugs in the bloodstream), they are transported to different organs among: Heart: Causing bacterial Endo-Carditis, that's why we dents give antibiotics before, during and after any blood involving treatment to PREVENT it and ALWAYS recommend good healthy oral hygiene to our beloved patients. Kidneys: Causing upper urinal infections, formation of calculous stones, miction pain (it hurts to pi). And from a bad cleaned mouth: you get intestinal infections that give you troubles up to Cancer, just by swallowing bacteria. Brain: Causing Duramadre infections, Meningitis, high intracraneal pressure. General: chronic fatigue, bad mouth smell, sinusitis, This is only related to MICROBIOLOGY, it has NOTHING to do with mercury, mercury in amalgams is NOT guilty for any heart disease, if so people might be dying very young and, instead of that, programmed scientifical research is making our expectation of life GROW each year. Amalgams last a LOT longer than the BEST photocured composite resin, Glass ionomer, compomere, or any esthetic materials a DENTIST can place in posterior teeth, so far it is the ONLY material that although not esthetic has the needed resistance to the high pressures generated in mouth's posterior part, if you were right about mercury, much more people would have your problem, If YOU had it, it doesn't mean that everybody HAS to have it. Some people are allergic to anesthesics, might be allergic to one in particular so the Dentist has to choose one to which the patient is not allergic, but it doesn't mean that EVERYBODY HAS to be allergic to anesthesics, get it? Amalgans well prepared are exprimed to take out the non reacted mercury(the most one can), then condensated into the prep, this makes more mercury come out to the surface so we take it out, condense it more and take it out untill the prep is full and there's no more non reacted mercury coming up, but this is a "tall" obturation so we take some MORE out to adjust oclussion, then wait a bit, then softly polish it, if it's polished well it won't trap bacterial plaque diminishing the risk of side caries, I polish them AGAIN next time patient comes back. So NO FREE MERCURY IS OUT FROM MY AMALGAMS no matter oral galvanism or whatever Oral galvanism causes SENSITIVITY in vital metalled teeth, when there is ANOTHER KIND of metal in the mouth near to it. SALIVA has enough "THINGS" in it to chelate the super small amount of mercury they might leak. Maybe you're allergic to amalgams, they not only have mercury, they have silver, copper, zinc, estaņo, that each have particularities by themselves and different particularities when alloyed or combined in various ways. Or maybe you're just allergic to dentistry, I could understand that. or maybe you're allergic to Joel, THAT'S IT, I've acomplished the threat I've diagnosed YOU! I LOVE my patients and treat them like I'd like to be treated (well) be good and brushalot Gabriel Schugurensky From: it is short for Andrea (ladyandy2@aol.comnospam) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-16 22:16:12 PST LOL... I like your analysis, Dr. Schugurensky. Thank you. :) Best regards, LadyAndy2 in Los Angeles, CA (remove "nospam" to reply) From: Joel_Eichen (joel_eichen@excite.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-17 13:50:07 PST I heard too much mercury gets stuck inside the coronary arteries. This is intensified if you carry a magnet in your shirt pocket. From: JDrew63929 (jdrew63929@aol.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-17 14:12:16 PST Mercy Doc didn't mean to set you on your ear!!!!!!!!!!! I have never said that all people should run out and get the metal out! Perhaps you should read my old posts, before going off half cocked. >Amalgams last a LOT longer than the BEST photocured composite resin, You don't know this at all. My dentist has patients whose composites have lasted better than 15 years. It is an art to install them correctly. It depends on how artful the dentist is. Not to mention, that who cares how long they last is you die in the meantime from mercury poisoning?????????? >if you were right about mercury, much more people would have >your problem, And they do! And there are many people who are having health problems and have never thought of checking the teeth. One read of the ADA and conventional medicine blindly believes their lies,,,,,,,,,,,because that is the ole American way. You probably are aslo not aware of what I do believe. I have stated that the people with weakened immune systems are of greatest risk. OTOH, which came first the weakened immune systems.......OR the mercury that weakened it?? >If YOU had it, it doesn't mean that everybody HAS to have it. Where did that come from? I have never said anything such thing. From: Joel_Eichen (joel_eichen@excite.com) Subject: Re: CHECK THE TEETH Date: 2001-03-17 14:12:39 PST JDrew63929
